I've heard both versions or "Heaven" from LLB and Salvador. I actually like Salvador's much better. I think the beat of faster. But anyhow, credit is given to The Garza brother's (LLB) on their CD. It's not about someone stealing someone else's music. Credit is given and to LLB, but if you actually follow Salvador's music, they are Godly men, out doing God's work. And that's what been a servant of God is.
Posts: 1 | Location: Orange County | Registered: Sat November 27 2004
WHY ARE U PEOPLE TRIPPIN OVER WHO WROTE THE SONG? DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY SECULAR ARTISTS "STEAL" SONGS FROM OTHER SECULAR ARTISTS? SO WHY CAN'T CHRISTIANS DO IT? ONLY THING I'M NOT SURE ABOUT IS IF LOS LONELY BOYS ARE SAVED. ARE THEY? ANYWAY I THINK WHOEVER STARTED COMPLAINING ABOUT SONG STEALING NEEDS TO GET DOWN ON THEIR KNEES AND PRAY, AND THINK ABOUT WHAT THEY SAY BEFORE THEY SAY IT. NOW IF I WAS APART OF SALVADOR I WOULD BE EXTREMELY OFFENDED BY SOME OF THE COMMENTS YALL HAVE SAID. PLEASE BELIEVE SALVADOR I THINK YALL DID A WONDERFUL JOB RECORDING THE SONG AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO KEEP "STEALING" SONGS THAT CAN SEND A POSITIVE MESSAGE TO ITS LISTENERS
I love the song and think Salvador did a great job on it (just like I think Los Loney Boys did).
I don't have a problem with them recording a song that was written by LLB, in fact LLB probably gets royalties on the song for its sales. I actually have a different issue with the song being on the album. On Salvador's web site it says that Nic Gonzales has co-written and produced every song on the album.
Here is the quote... http://www.salvadorlive.com/music/?release=18800616-18700616 --------- Fans haven't experienced a new studio release from "Christian music's hardest working band" since 2002-get ready for the explosive new release from Dove Award-winning Salvador!
Front-man Nic Gonzales has never sounded better, having co-written and produced every song on the album. So Natural is the Salvador album we've all been waiting for; complete with a soulful, modern-rock vibe plus the signature touch of Latin flair you have grown to love. ---------
Don't you think this is either a mistake by the writer of that announcement or a misunderstanding? Maybe it should have read "cowritten and/or produced" by Nic. Didn't he and the guys produce it? I find it difficult to believe that this was done to take credit for writing the song. And for the record, I hadn't heard the LLB version until recently, but I like Salvador's MUCH better.
I first heard "Heaven" by LLB on CMT & VH1 and I really liked it. But then I heard it on the Christian station and thought it was LLB. I thought they had crossed over to Christian radio. I knew my brother in law, who doesn't listen to Christian music, liked LLB so I told them they were on Christian radio. I later heard it was sung by Salvador so I looked up LLB and Salvador and found this message board. I see this as a great way to introduce "secular music" fans to Christian music. I know if I liked a secular music band and heard they were playing on Christian radio, I would probably check it out to see if I liked any other of the bands. Just like Switchfoot, many people don't realize they are a Christian band and they are listening to Christian music. I think it's great way to get others to listen to Christian music and let God work on their hearts through music! AMEN! Also it's a great way to praise God on more than one radio station! God Bless! In Him, Gina
praise God if Salvador chose to sing this song. who are we to judge? They know what they are doing whether good or bad. I don't see anything wrong in singing about how far heaven is from us. Only God knows their hearts and intentions for this song. If it ministers to you, let it be; if not, then let it go. God Bless You all!
Wow who would have thought that something as small as singing a song by another person could have caused people to get upset. I think that by saying that Salvador is 'Stealing" and "copying" songs a harsh. Sometimes certain songs misister to people, who are we to get upset when they decide to share that song to with others. They didn't do anything illegl and to sit here and judge others is wrong, it says so in the bible, so be nice. Everyone has their reasons for doing things, so unless you are a member of Salvador and know why they chose to do the song, don't get upset, just enjoy it, and let it minister to you.
" There is no fear in love, but perfect Love drives out fear. "
To clear up any further questions about Salvador putting "Heaven" on the new CD, go to www.christianitytoday.com and click the music link. One of their writers interviewed Nic and one of the first questions asked was about recording "Heaven". I'm sure I'll catch flak for this, but personally, I would rather have heard another new Salvador song as opposed to a remake of a song that is so new to radio. I have the cd by Los Lonely Boys, and prefer their version of the song, probably because it is what I heard first. Nic mentions in the interview that "The label said, "Man, there isn't a band better to do this song than Salvador, so let's see how it comes out." Prior to that, Nic mentioned that the label tried to make them into something they are not when they recorded "Into Motion", which I happen to enjoy, regardless of some less than favorable reviews I have read. Sounds to me like the label needs to recognize the talent that just drips from these guys and let them do their own thing, which is write lyrics and music that reflect a true heart for God and a desire to share the Gospel with all who are willing to listen. Just my two cents worth...
What you have to understand is that it is not about gaining more fame and more attention. I'm sure salvador felt it in their heart to play this song and put it on their record just as any other artist would. You have to understand that the Christian music biz and lifestyle are different from that of the world.
When we play songs it is to praise God. This song has touched me in both versions. And you know that Los Lonely boys had to have given permision for salvador to put it on their album so how would that be considered stealing?.. what is so wrong in singing to God what it is that you feel from the heart?
When you expirence something where God has touched you just by someone else's words weather it's music or preaching.. the spirit moves.
Understand that it is done for God because this band knows as well as every christian does that the things of this world do not matter.. but it is the prize of eternal life.
quote:Originally posted by Jen: Taz, As far as I know, Los Lonely Boys recorded this song first - it's on their CD. Is this song on a Salvador CD? I haven't been able to find it. Therefore, I conclude that Salvador, along with many other Christian artists/groups are trying to get a piece of the fame that goes along with popular songs.
I have noticed this a lot more recently that Christian groups are rerecording popular songs. Salvador's version is no different then the Los Lonely Boys version, except some different voices. The Los Lonely Boys are Christians. Why is Salvador stealing their profits and fame?
As a Christian who desires to support these Christian artists, this really angers me. Why do Christian artists need to be the copycats and ride on the coattails of the "secular/mainstream" artist that originally recorded the song? The song "Heaven" is one example. Another example is Selah rerecording the song "You Lift Me Up" that was recorded by Josh Groban. The background music is the same, just different voices. Why must the Christians steal the spotlight & copy the secular artists out there. God has given Christian artists talent, so why not use that & come up with new songs instead of knockoffs of songs already out there. I, as a Christian, expect more out of my brothers and sisters in Christ.
Wow...didn't know that this song raised so many different views - both positive and negative. Anyway...I must say that I liked the cover that Salvador did for this song. Great stuff. Not only do I like the arrangement and the music, I also relate alot to the lyrics. To me, the more I grow in love with my Jesus, the more I'm cryin' out, "Save me from this prison Lord, just help me to get away." I guess it's just the actual fact that we are all created with eternity in our hearts. Ecc 3v11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men; yet they cannot fathom what God has done from beginning to end. But still I know that I can create a ripple affect here on earth for as long as God gives me breath for Him! Yeah! So yeah, my personal views about this song is that I relate to it and it's cool. Yeah, great!
This song changed my daughters life in such a big way... She past away on Dec 31, 2004 and this is one of the songs I had them play at her funeral... She loved this song and it was one of the only christian song she liked....
I'm so sorry to hear about the loss of your daughter Debi. Know that she's in a much better place than we are and that you'll see her one day when we all meet Jesus face to face! Take care and be blessed!
quote:Originally posted by Jen: Taz, As far as I know, Los Lonely Boys recorded this song first - it's on their CD. Is this song on a Salvador CD? I haven't been able to find it. Therefore, I conclude that Salvador, along with many other Christian artists/groups are trying to get a piece of the fame that goes along with popular songs.
I have noticed this a lot more recently that Christian groups are rerecording popular songs. Salvador's version is no different then the Los Lonely Boys version, except some different voices. The Los Lonely Boys are Christians. Why is Salvador stealing their profits and fame?
As a Christian who desires to support these Christian artists, this really angers me. Why do Christian artists need to be the copycats and ride on the coattails of the "secular/mainstream" artist that originally recorded the song? The song "Heaven" is one example. Another example is Selah rerecording the song "You Lift Me Up" that was recorded by Josh Groban. The background music is the same, just different voices. Why must the Christians steal the spotlight & copy the secular artists out there. God has given Christian artists talent, so why not use that & come up with new songs instead of knockoffs of songs already out there. I, as a Christian, expect more out of my brothers and sisters in Christ.
First off I'd like to save my hands some time by not deciding to give you the many reasons why Christian artists decide to re-record songs--it's already been addressed.
However, I'd like to tell you that your post was extremely arrogant. I hope that you go home and do a little more research about song writing and producing before you decide to bash one of my favorite bands. That's not only disrespectul to us as fans, but also the band who might have a glimpse of what you wrote.
And, oh...I, as a Christian, expect more out of you, too--that is to be a little more insightful before you post.
Salvador-- you guys are great. Keep up the wonderful work.
"To live is to love, to love is a blessing"
Posts: 10 | Location: Oklahoma City | Registered: Wed December 22 2004
quote:DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY SECULAR ARTISTS "STEAL" SONGS FROM OTHER SECULAR ARTISTS? SO WHY CAN'T CHRISTIANS DO IT? ONLY THING I'M NOT SURE ABOUT IS IF LOS LONELY BOYS ARE SAVED. ARE THEY?
First off Dj4god if you knew what you were talking about you would know that Jesus died for everyones sins. Obviously if LLB was writing a song about heaven they would believe in God and be saved by his glory. And second of all, all you people that say you are Christians wouldn't be harping on someone that says something so innocent as this. I listen to both artists and both "Heaven" songs and they do sound similar but its not enough to get worked up over and get angry about. Get worked up about protecting fellow Christians. There are Christians in Africa that are getting killed everyday for their beliefs. Thats something worth getting worked up about but as God says you need to forgive.
quote:Originally posted by Jen: Taz, As far as I know, Los Lonely Boys recorded this song first - it's on their CD. Is this song on a Salvador CD? I haven't been able to find it. Therefore, I conclude that Salvador, along with many other Christian artists/groups are trying to get a piece of the fame that goes along with popular songs.
I have noticed this a lot more recently that Christian groups are rerecording popular songs. Salvador's version is no different then the Los Lonely Boys version, except some different voices. The Los Lonely Boys are Christians. Why is Salvador stealing their profits and fame?
As a Christian who desires to support these Christian artists, this really angers me. Why do Christian artists need to be the copycats and ride on the coattails of the "secular/mainstream" artist that originally recorded the song? The song "Heaven" is one example. Another example is Selah rerecording the song "You Lift Me Up" that was recorded by Josh Groban. The background music is the same, just different voices. Why must the Christians steal the spotlight & copy the secular artists out there. God has given Christian artists talent, so why not use that & come up with new songs instead of knockoffs of songs already out there. I, as a Christian, expect more out of my brothers and sisters in Christ.
I don't think it is a matter of COPYING anyone...some artist may do that, but as far as the two examples you stated ("Heaven" and "You Lift Me Up")...well, I think Salvador does a very good job on the song. It is a fun song, and still has meaning, and if they purchase the rights to do so they can record it. (Obviously...that's what they did.) And as far as "You Lift Me Up" goes...Selah did a GREAT job on that song...it touches me way more than Josh Groban's version, that's for sure!!
Sometimes artists just have a song or two that they really love or that touched them in some way, and they want to re-record it. I know if I were ever to make an album I would record a couple big hits, simply because I love them so much and I love to sing them. And have you thought of this...maybe Salvador reached a whole different set of people with Heaven. And I KNOW that Selah reached a whole dif set with "You Lift Me Up." It was a bigger hit than JG's version!
Posts: 12 | Location: Mobile, AL | Registered: Wed February 02 2005
Okay, I didn't see all the different responses to Jen's rather arrogant post. I probably wouldn't have wasted my "breath" on repeating what a couple of people have already said. lol!
Posts: 12 | Location: Mobile, AL | Registered: Wed February 02 2005
It's not fair that just because Salvador got the same song that LLB has we already start critcizing them. They have put all their effort to satisfy God and not other people around them. Let them be, they are only worshping God with their music. I myself love that song it has brought me closer to God.
I've been a fan of Salvador's for quite some time now and I own all of their CD's; including "So Natural". However, my respect for them as musicians went down before I even heard their remake of "Heaven". Not because I think no one should remake songs; but because they remade a song that was still getting major radio time. They really should have waited a little bit longer and at least "owned" the song themselves...not remaking it to sound just like Los Lonely Boys' version. Needless to say, I don't think I'll be buying Salvador's next CD...I just lost respect.
God Bless You all! 
